Catalogue description Petitioners: Robert de Thorp (Thorpe), son of John de Thorpe. Name(s): de Thorp...

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Details of SC 8/8/355
Reference: SC 8/8/355
Description:
Petitioners: Robert de Thorp (Thorpe), son of John de Thorpe.
Name(s): de Thorp (Thorpe), Robert
Addressees: King and council.
Nature of request: Robert, son and heir of John de Thorpe states that the manor of Combs in Suffolk is held of the king in chief for an annual fee farm, which fell to the king through the forfeiture of Ralph Avenel, Norman, of whom Bartholomew de Crek, Robert's ancestor, held the manor for the aforesaid farm. After the death of John de Thorpe, the escheator, by a writ of diem clausit extremum, at the suit of Alice, John's widow, seized and held the manor until Robert, through ignorance, did homage to the king - and he then had his seisin. The escheator has levied and taken the issues in the meantime, and he is also distrained by the sheriff of Suffolk for relief. Robert has sued to Chancery for a remedy, until now at Pentecost, when the chancellor has adjourned him to parliament. He requests a remedy if law or reason demands it, quoting two points of the Great Charter in support of his case, and attaching copies of a certification of the exchequer, the writ of diem clausit extremum and the subsequent inquisition.
Nature of endorsement: Coram rege et magno concilio.This petition is to be sent to Chancery and there, when the certification and inquisition which it mentions have been examined, if they agree with the transcripts sewn to this petition, the petition, with the transcripts, is to be sent back before the king and the great council.And afterwards the transcripts were examined, with the certification and inquisition, and they agree.
Places mentioned: Cambes (Combs), Suffolk.
People mentioned: Ralph Avenel; Bartholomew de Crek; John de Thorp (Thorpe); Alice [de Thorp (Thorpe)], widow of John de Thorp.
Note: There is a clear reference to the petition being adjourned to present parliament at Pentecost: so it must have been presented at the June parliament of 1325. PROME, Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337, Rotuli Parliamentorum I, pp. 416-429, no. 12 disagrees, assigning it to 1324 - but this comes from a mis-reading of the phrase, 'tauntqe ore a Pentecouste qe le Chaunceller lui ad ajournee en parlement'.
Date: [1325]
Related material:

For another petition by the same petitioner, see SC 8/266/13299

For a related petition, see SC 8/166/8299

For a related petition, see SC 8/166/8298

A duplicate petition is SC 8/166/8297

For a transcript of writ of diem clausit extremum and inquisition mentioned in petition see SC 8/8/356B

For a transcript of certification of the Exchequer mentioned in petition see SC 8/8/356A
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Former reference in its original department: Parliamentary Petition 8100
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Language: French
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
Publication note:

Rotuli Parliamentorum; ut et Petitiones, et Placita in Parliamento, vol. I, Edw I and Edw II, (Record Commission, 1783), p.419a-b, no.12 (full edition of a later copy of the original petition)

The Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, Ed. Paul Brand, Anne Curry, Chris Given-Wilson, Rosemary Horrox, W.M. Ormrod and J.R.S. Phillips, (Cambridge University Press, 2005), Appendix of Unedited Petitions, 1307-1337, Rot. Parl. vol. I, pp. 416-429, no. 12 (summary of references)

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